Interestingly, the old Y-block engines from have the same bore spacing, too. Big block. Strongly considering ranger frame and chassis. Dana, you are absolutely correct.
There are two more ways to visually identify a C engine in addition to those listed. The mechanical fuel pump located on the drivers side U. One on top and one on bottom.
The W fuel pump is attached on each side horizontally, or left and right sides. I agree how confusing it can get, especially with so much misinformation online. It could be a simple typo error or perhaps what I thought I learned over the past 40 years is totally wrong. Another point of identification that new fans of the C might not know is how to easily check for 2-V and 4-V barrel heads.
In the upper most corners near the valve cover rails on U. There might also be a small dome shaped dot beside the number. They do share the same basic Cleveland heads architecture and with a little work they will support substantially more horsepower over a wider rpm range than production Windsor heads.
Boat anchors??? The small block, double hump Bowtie variety from the General are perfect for that application. And the beat goes on….. I keep an open mind and learn something new every day but 3 other guys that bleed Ford blue when we bust a knuckle, agree. Rick, I agree. They classified them in families.
NO i do not own a salvage yard, most of these run and drive. The ignorance is bliss beat goes on….. My first truck in early was a Ford f short wide with a c. I loved that truck but sold it in when I went in the army. Would love to find another some day that I can afford. Tank behind the seat, long bed, three on the tree. I too loved that truck. Damn it! It paid going to Navy diesel school.
I so want to find another. The was in production for 4 years before the engine was modifed to the that was the replacement of the Cleveland engine. The c is the only proformace engine for build. The engine was available in a few different varieties.
The proformace style Wich were all 4v engine which had the same intake and exhaust ports that the boss had, the engine was available as a Cobrajet version, boss, and H. Of course HP severely was affected after 72 but with fuel supply shortage and emissions this was part of the end of the Cleveland. After reading all the comments, I do know one thing.
My 34 Ford Coupe, has a Windsor. Thanks to all. Thanks guys this is a good read I learned a lot I have a 77 F with a M and my land lord told me we could put a C or W in instead I think I will just rebuild the one I have. Pingback: Project Warrior 2. Can anyone authoritatively confirm this? The c engines have a 2 or 4. Awesome information. Hey guys. I just pitched a m. Is it going to be stupid to try to build this engine.
I saw that it only came in 2barrells. Are they a after market intake 4barrel I can get for it? Will a intake work on it. Would really appreciate any and all tips on this subject. Also any tricks to beef it up. I have one on a Flat top pistons are near impossible to find for either, so many people use c pistons with sleaved rods. Not sure on beefing up but I would like to get crank outta it for a w build if u decide to trash it.
Can someone help. With other words, what numbers should I find on the block? I graduated a few months later and Mom let me buy it from her for my college ride. What a burner!! Well, quick question. I just bought s f with a straight 6cyl. So many people are suggesting to build the 6cyl but i would like to make a rockin 2wd street toy. Any suggestions? I would keep the cid nearly indestructible. Friend of mine had a cid in a Mercury Capri with a 4 speed manual. He used to blow the doors off of the stock 5.
Look up Cliffords 6 cycliner performance parts. You can get Offenhauser four-barrel carburetor intakes full length headers. It is possible to build a high performance inline 6-cylinder and in my opinion worth it. As far as I know still used today because they run forever. Also most of the people who are suggesting to build the 6 race late model or modifed cars. I want v8 power and sound. Everybody will think he got a V8 in there.
I have a question maybe someone can answer. Are the fuel pumps for a Windsor, and a Cleveland interchangeable? Are the bolt patterns the same? If so, will the fuel pump for a Windsor run a Cleveland? I had a71 f C two boles fore and aft while W two bolts top and bottom.. I had a 72 galaxy with a and a c-6 it was a two door 2. It would routinely get 21 miles to the gal at 65 miles an hour. Stock bore size was 4. This is true of all engines as well as the , and The stroke was used to change the displacement of them.
It had a M and a C4, so just realized they made a C4 with a series bellhowsing bolt pattern? I just bought a 69 Mach 1 with a Windsor M code and was wondering what oil viscosity to use in it. Cleveland heads fit with some work to water passages hence boss also can make clevor.
Keep ur pics it stands for midland its just easier to identify it as modified since it was derived from the cleveland which had an oiling problem that done it in even though the routing of 1 hose cures the problem. Will the Cleveland fit my Lincoln Town Car? Lets not forget the Cleveland was used by several other companies, most notably Detmasa in the Pantera…. Told it had the highest compression ratio of a Ford engine.
We were doing road rallies in the NE. Needed Boss front spoiler to keep front wheels on the ground. Too much back story…. Clevelands have two fuel pump bolts one on top and one on the bottom. How do I know? I own one in a 71 stand. So I guess a couple of you just like to flap your gums. He bought that truck new but cursed the engine every time he had to drop down into second gear with his foot through the floor going up a extra steep hill.
It was a pretty gutless engine for a truck that size and definitely not much of a highway cruiser. Amazingly the truck still exists today but currently has a in it. Bought an F custom, with a heavy service bed and crane brand new with the m 2V in Had the same problem having to downshift to get up hills.
One supposed remedy to poor mileage during the gas crunch was high gears so the engine was turning slower at 70 MPH. Unfortunately, I had to use the granny gear to start out, or waste the clutch. Put a high-flow eldelbrock intake and Carter 4 barrel on it with an RV cam and felt like it doubled the HP. Had it running in 3 days. Hauled that heavy truck around like it was nothing but still had the way-too-high gear problem on long, steep inclines.
On the flat however, the high gears let that truck run over mph in 4th gear! Not that I did it very often. Still have the truck today with the 5th or 6th motor in it. Went back to the 2V with better heads and the thing has good power and … gets 14 MPG … remarkable when you consider the 11, Lb.
I really liked your info on the I always been a huge fan of that motor. I just had an opportunity to buy a good rebuilt c 2v. I have a 67 Mustang and put it in it. Is this true? Thanks for you time. I have a 73 mustang the original c matching was stolen from my garage just wondering what you would think this would be valued at? Clevo and M engines had some anomolies. Though buy FM pistons that are way down the hole and you will end up with about 7.
Mine now has 60cc C [Australian] heads and gets 9. Why did Ford ever make them so large? I believe some aftermarket W blocks use Clevo size and they are too big as well. But a bit better. The is suited too what it was installed as as a engine for 2 tonne tanks. Mine is a 71 LTD. Even the 2V intakes really are too big. A Performer gives them a Chev race port intake runner. The long rods give it so much low end torque it is hard to get off the line without frying [semislick race] tyres.
It is in a budget road race car. I got a M in my F how can I tell what year it was made or they all the same in all the years. W hat years did the make them? I have a f with, what I was told is a W. The distributor is wired to a firing order of These hex head bolts have an underhead length of 1. A W intake is about an inch to an inch and a half wider.
This housing is bolted to the engine block and derives its name from the bell-like shape that its internal components necessitate. The starter motor is usually mounted here, and engages with a ring gear on the flywheel. On the opposite end to the engine is usually bolted to the gearbox. They are sometimes split in half where the engine block meets the oil pan or have a cover at the bottom or top where you can remove a small plate and peek inside the bell housing.
If the heads are off the car have a look at the exhaust port. If the port opening has an indentation where it passes around the exhaust bolt thread it is in fact a 4v head. If the port opening is nice and condistent all the way around it is in fact a 2v head.
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